Security Unlimited (1981)

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Security Unlimited (1981)

Postby chen lung » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:55 pm

Hi guys

It's been a while since I've been on the HKMDB forums! Anyway, I've been subtitling DVDs and using HKMDB to source the Chinese names. However, credits that are in the film are missing in HKMDB listings (and sometimes the other way about). I thought since HKMDB helped me, I should contribute in return and it only makes sense as help goes both ways. It's a fantastic reference site and I don't know why I haven't been sooner to the forum itself to investigate these films! I've taken images to see if you can attach names and titles.

For this one, it's been a bit of a head-scratcher as some of the professions don't seem right, but as soon as these are sorted, I will verify if my suspicions are correct.

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TONG SI, DAVID CHEUNG, FUNG SHUI JAN, DANG MEI MEI, SOMEONE, SOMEONE, TSE HON SAN, SOMEONE, KOBE WONG, AU SHU CHAM, TSANG CHOH LAM, SOMEONE, LEE HOI SANG
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WONG CHIK SAM, SOMEONE, MARIA CHEUNG, CHEUNG MIU HAU, WONG MAN, LOK SHUT, HUNG LEUNG SEK, BILL TUNG, JOE JUNIOR, RAY CORDEIRO (HKMDB's listed Chinese name doesn't match the one on film, I think that's him in the film?), HUI SAI CHEONG, LAU HAK SUEN
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Neither dialogue or sound effects are included in HKMDB's listing.
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SOMEONE, ACTION: BILLY CHAN, SOMEONE
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SOMEONE, SOMEONE, SOMEONE, COSTUME: CHU SHENG SHI
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Sam Shum doesn't appear to be on HKMDB, so I was hoping his Chinese name be checked, then add his English name and credentials.

'Olivia Mok Bassett' is the Production Secretery, but listed in other films as Production Manager. She's not in the HKMDB listing for this film, but should be.
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Can you check out this 'Huang Zo See'? I couldn't find him in HKMDB.
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Mai Ho is here (please check his profession as it doesn't seem to match HKMDB's, unless he has two jobs), but there's another person who doesn't appear to be on the film's page.
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Stanley Hui is listed as Stanley Hsu in the film.

Planning (Leonard Ho) is listed as 'Production Supervised by' in the film.
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Re: Security Unlimited (1981)

Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:11 pm

chen lung wrote:It's been a while since I've been on the HKMDB forums! Anyway, I've been subtitling DVDs and using HKMDB to source the Chinese names. However, credits that are in the film are missing in HKMDB listings (and sometimes the other way about). I thought since HKMDB helped me, I should contribute in return and it only makes sense as help goes both ways. It's a fantastic reference site and I don't know why I haven't been sooner to the forum itself to investigate these films! I've taken images to see if you can attach names and titles.


Welcome back! If only more folks would follow your lead. ;) There's been a lot of additions (and corrections and improvements) to the database the past couple of years or more, and there will be plenty more ahead, but there are many folks out there who could have helped us along even faster with their accumulated resources and knowledge. Maybe someday . . .
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Re: Security Unlimited (1981)

Postby STSH » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:59 am

chen lung wrote:
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TONG SI, DAVID CHEUNG, FUNG SHUI JAN, DANG MEI MEI, SOMEONE, SOMEONE, TSE HON SAN, SOMEONE, KOBE WONG, AU SHU CHAM, TSANG CHOH LAM, SOMEONE, LEE HOI SANG
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Someones :
1. Sek Ngai Wan (2) - probably an alternate characterization of the existing Sek Ngai Wan
2. Leung Shu Wing, unlisted
3. Ma Chao, alternate char'n of Yue Tau Wan, already credited
4. Fung Fung (1), already credited


chen lung wrote:Image

WONG CHIK SAM, SOMEONE, MARIA CHEUNG, CHEUNG MIU HAU, WONG MAN, LOK SHUT, HUNG LEUNG SEK, BILL TUNG, JOE JUNIOR, RAY CORDEIRO (HKMDB's listed Chinese name doesn't match the one on film, I think that's him in the film?), HUI SAI CHEONG, LAU HAK SUEN
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Someones
1. Ng Mei Lai (2), unlisted
2. Kwok Lee Man - alt char'n.

To be continued .....
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Re: Security Unlimited (1981)

Postby STSH » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:20 am

chen lung wrote:Image

SOMEONE, ACTION: BILLY CHAN, SOMEONE
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Someones :
1. Fan Kam-Teng, listed. Not sure about job.
2. Samson Chiu, added.

chen lung wrote:Image

SOMEONE, SOMEONE, SOMEONE, COSTUME: CHU SHENG SHI
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Someones:
1. Chan Yuk (2), unlisted. Not sure about job.
2. Bat To Cheong (!), unlisted. Head of production ?
3. Chen Kuo-Hsiung, added.

chen lung wrote:Image

Sam Shum doesn't appear to be on HKMDB, so I was hoping his Chinese name be checked, then add his English name and credentials.


Sham Toi Leung, unlisted. Asst Production Manager ?

chen lung wrote:'Olivia Mok Bassett' is the Production Secretery, but listed in other films as Production Manager. She's not in the HKMDB listing for this film, but should be.
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Opinions pls from others. This job is one I'm not familiar with.
Is Production Manager a fair translation ?

chen lung wrote:Image

Can you check out this 'Huang Zo See'? I couldn't find him in HKMDB.
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Marylinn Wong, already credited.

Terrific info. Keep it coming.
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Postby chen lung » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:06 am

Thanks! Nice work.

You missed out two pictures ;).

Is the procedure of HKMDB to add new people if they're unlisted?

For the alternative characterisation (like English names), do HKMDB add those too for easier reference?
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Postby Gaijin84 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:16 pm

Is the procedure of HKMDB to add new people if they're unlisted?

Do you mean people in the actual credits that aren't in the database? If so, yes.

For the alternative characterisation (like English names), do HKMDB add those too for easier reference?

Yes - in the aliases section. Which ones are you referring to?
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Postby chen lung » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:50 pm

Yes - in the aliases section. Which ones are you referring to?

I don't see Chinese aliases in HKMDB's listings (just English ones).

Kwok Lee Man, for instance.
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Postby Gaijin84 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:57 pm

ahh - yes, the Chinese aliases are somewhat sparse. Some do have them, I.e.Ku Feng

they can certainly be added at any time
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Postby STSH » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:26 am

chen lung wrote:Thanks! Nice work.

You missed out two pictures ;).


Couldn't do anything with those two.

chen lung wrote:Is the procedure of HKMDB to add new people if they're unlisted?


Each of us choose what we do.
In general, I simply note new people and calros adds them.

chen lung wrote:For the alternative characterisation (like English names), do HKMDB add those too for easier reference?


Yes.

chen lung wrote:I don't see Chinese aliases in HKMDB's listings (just English ones).
Kwok Lee Man, for instance.


Click the big5 link at the top right. If there is one, it'll be there.
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Postby chen lung » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:11 pm

Couldn't do anything with those two.

Why's that?
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Postby calros » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:36 pm

added 3 new actors and 1 alias.
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Postby STSH » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:43 pm

chen lung wrote:
Couldn't do anything with those two.

Why's that?


Nothing to update there.
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Postby chen lung » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:55 pm

STSH wrote:
chen lung wrote:
Couldn't do anything with those two.

Why's that?


Nothing to update there.

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Dialogue: Kwok Shing Sum
Sound Effects: Wong Ping

These two aren't in the HKMDB listing.
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There's two credits out of the four translated on the film (Lighting and Cinematographer are on HKMDB fine). Mai Ho is here, but I don't know if his occupation matches and there's someone else.
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Postby calros » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:32 pm

Dialogue Recording and Sound Effects are jobs that do not exist in our DB so they cannot be added. Mai Ho is Set Decorator, which I usually add as Art Director in 2nd place. Added F/X.
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Postby chen lung » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:14 pm

calros wrote:Dialogue Recording and Sound Effects are jobs that do not exist in our DB so they cannot be added.

Alternatively, do you have 'Sound' or something like that?

Thanks for confirming the other two credits.
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Postby chen lung » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:19 pm

I missed a 5th credit:

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1. ? : Chan Yuk (2)
2. ? : Bat To Cheong (1)
3. Make-Up: Chen Kuo-Hsiung
4. Costume: Chu Sheng Shi
5. ? : ?

Can someone find a job for Fan Kam-Teng please?

Just also finishing off 'The Contract' which might have end credits.
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Postby calros » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:33 pm

chen lung wrote:
calros wrote:Dialogue Recording and Sound Effects are jobs that do not exist in our DB so they cannot be added.

Alternatively, do you have 'Sound' or something like that?

Thanks for confirming the other two credits.
No, one thing are Sound Recordist, Sound Mixer (which are in our DB) and another different thing are DR and SE.
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Postby calros » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:42 pm

1. is 劇照 Still Photographer (not in our DB). Fan Kam-Teng is 劇務 Stage Manager (not in our DB).
added hairdresser and props.
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