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fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm
by chiangkamfan
fists of legends / iron bodyguards

couldn´t find this movie in the db

this is a 2 in 1 movie.the main part is simply taken from "return of the assassin" 1973 http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng mixed with new footage from 1996.

by reading a toby russell interview i recognized the face of cho ha foo http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?id=6057&display_set=eng
(best known from the kung fu kids series) he was credited as jet le.as a big fan of him i had to order the movie directly.i´ve been glad as far as the opening scene ends and the movie flips senseless to "return of the assassin".now and there comes a short scene from the new footage which is tolerable choreographed.
i had the impression that they´ve used the same actors/stuntmen for different scenes.
untill i´ve watched the movie i didn´t know anything about the actor/stuntman todd senofonte,he is an impressive martial artist,he looks very similar to j.c.van damme, i´ve read that he was double for him many times.






cast-mixed with the credits of "return of the assassin"

jet le- chen jan
larry lee- slu hung
tony lau- shu yu chun
bolo yeung- mongol
todd senofonte- letov
lu feng- escort
robert tai- brother tai
tang ching- shao pai
tien fong- tien lung
double phoenix- iron head
james nam- nam
bruce chang- student#1
lobo chan- student#2
hsu pung- ninja#1
hsiao tsai - ninja#2
chang kwo chiang- ninja#3
shirley lam- ma
yvonne huang- wife
git choy- kid
fong pai- dr sun

staff
produced by: toby russell & george tan
executive producer: roy mac aree
production co-ordinator: tai chi hsien
directed by: robert tai
action directors: robert tai,alexander lo,lau ka wing

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1st assistant director toby russell
2nd assistant director alexander lo
3rd assistant director chang kwo chiang
edited by: xavier russell
music by: t´northerners
director of photography: yuen san
screenplay: george tan


some pics will follow
maybe a editor can add the movie to the db.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:14 pm
by calros
Since 2005, in order to add a movie in out DB, first of all we need the Chinese title.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:19 pm
by chiangkamfan
oh,i didn´t know that the chinese title is necessary

i´ve searched but hardly couldn´t find any chinese title

just: fist of legend 2
fists of legends 2/iron bodyguards
fist of legends 2/iron bodyguards

produced and released by vengeance video


all available versions are english dubbed, so it seems not to be made for chinese market

anyway,it´s a low budget montage movie and not really worth watching

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:52 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
:lol:

by reading a toby russell interview i recognized the face of cho ha foo http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
(best known from the kung fu kids series) he was credited as jet le.as a big fan of him i had to order the movie directly


So I assume uber-Hong-Kong-cinema-fan Toby Russell has no qualms against putting "Jet Li presents" on the cover of his DVD release to lure in buyers less knowledgeable than yourself? Priceless. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:32 pm
by chiangkamfan
...to lure in buyers less knowledgeable than yourself?

i have that knowledge,i wouldn´t buy the movie because there is "jet li presents" written on the cover,that would make me sceptical.jet li was never been connected with a second part of "fist of legend"
it was only the interest of cho ha foo,i knew him from the kung fu kids series and a small part in "city of darkness" so i was very interested.

and at first i recognized cho ha foo from a screenshot,not from the cover!




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Toby Russell has no qualms against putting "Jet Li presents" on the cover of his DVD release...


some producers are ruthless,think about all the bruce lee clone and montage movies.
but there are also a few jackie chan montage movies like "master of disaster","jackie chan´s second strike","the young tiger"the most known"master with cracked fingers"and even movies without any scene where jackie is in,like"der ninja"(ninja thunderbolt)"drunken fist boxing",36 crazy fists","ninja wars" and "blind fist of bruce" :)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:40 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
some producers are ruthless,think about all the bruce lee clone and montage movies.


So true! I guess I just didn't know enough about the much-touted Mr. Russell to realize he was part of that camp. But hey, whatever sells . . . ;)

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Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:18 pm
by Gaijin84
Regarding this film - I think it should be added to the database while we are looking for the Chinese title. Most likely the scenes with Cho Ha Foo are from an unfinished piece, but the scenes were released as part of this film. As a service to those looking for information, shouldn't we add this to complete some filmographies? Some key people appear in the new footage, including Lu Feng and Larry Lee (i think). For completists this should most likely be added.

Let me know your thoughts.

Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:34 pm
by ekisha
Right maybe add this movie,but then somebody can find chinese title(i hope so).
For example i'd liek to see cthe complete Joh Haau Fu filmography.I know lately he acted in tv and taiwan movies,but only those who have watched can prove it.I have some screenshots,but don't know where they are from or can anyone recognize this films. :(

Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:41 pm
by STSH
See
http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mht ... ay_set=eng

Or are you suggesting it be listed separately ?

Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:14 pm
by ekisha
Yes,and why?
Let's look at our database.We have a movie Fatal Termination and Hard To Kill aka Interpol Connection,and these 2 movies has the same scene too.But they are 2 different movies.

Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:51 pm
by Gaijin84
Or are you suggesting it be listed separately ?


I would suggest listing it separately as well. You can't really add the cast or IDs from the 1996 footage to Return of the Assassin, since that was obviously made as an unrelated film. It should be separate, but maybe listed only with the cast members from the new footage and a note to see RotA for original cast. Was Return of the Assassin ever released on VHS/DVD? It would be interesting to know if the 96 redub changes the plot completely from the original film.

Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:59 am
by Brian Thibodeau
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Re: fists of legends 2 / iron bodyguards

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:06 am
by STSH
Gaijin84 wrote:
Or are you suggesting it be listed separately ?

I would suggest listing it separately as well.


Guys, guys. You are missing the main point.
This is a recut/new version by Americans - English speakers. It appears only in an English/English dub version. Therefore, it does not have a Chinese title. And as calros said, we only add movies with Chinese titles.

So, unless anyone can prove that the recut has a separate Chinese title ........