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Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 am
by Michael Kistner
Not in the HKFA website but in a HKFA book it is noted that Fan Ling and Chin Meng are one person. Opinions?

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng Chin Meng

and

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng Fan Ling

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:17 am
by Gaijin84
I would say yes, same person.

I wonder why the vast difference in names, both English and Big5...

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:05 pm
by dleedlee
I've been back and forth: yes, no, yes.

No , at first, because of the nose on Chin Meng on left - but there's no source for that image.

Also, it being in the HKFA book but not online might indicate an editorial update (unless it's a new publication). ?


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Chin Meng
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Fan Ling; added last one from 1968

But these two magazine pics on Taiwan ebay-like site seem to be the same person
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Fan Ling mag. cover
Image
Chin Meng
Image
Chin Meng 1978 film ???

Looks like ?????
Ninth Brother Encounters Ghost (1978)
Image
Chin Meng

One other thing, Fan Ling ??, and Fan Ling (2) ??might be the same person, if you compare their HKFA credits.
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Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:07 pm
by Gaijin84
No , at first, because of the nose on Chin Meng on left - but there's no source for that image.

That picture is from The Shaolin Brothers (1977)

I think their eyebrows and nose are very similar, but I'm usually wrong on these things.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:24 pm
by dleedlee
Gaijin84 wrote:
No , at first, because of the nose on Chin Meng on left - but there's no source for that image.

That picture is from The Shaolin Brothers (1977)

I think their eyebrows and nose are very similar, but I'm usually wrong on these things.


I just thought her nose looked broader in that one. I'm leaning towards yes.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:53 am
by Michael Kistner
Also, it being in the HKFA book but not online might indicate an editorial update (unless it's a new publication). ?


Source is the book Hong Kong Filmography Vol VII (1970–1974) published in 2010. Listed at the entry of RINGING SWORD is Fan Ling with alt name Chin Meng.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:40 pm
by dleedlee
Michael Kistner wrote:
Also, it being in the HKFA book but not online might indicate an editorial update (unless it's a new publication). ?


Source is the book Hong Kong Filmography Vol VII (1970–1974) published in 2010. Listed at the entry of RINGING SWORD is Fan Ling with alt name Chin Meng.


That's good enough for me. I'm in.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:30 pm
by Gaijin84
dleedlee wrote:
That's good enough for me. I'm in.


Ditto

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:30 am
by Michael Kistner
I found with the help of a friend another source: an old chinese actors book says Fan Ling is the birth name and early name of actress Chin Meng.

I merge the names in a few days.

Thank you.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:00 am
by Michael Kistner
Merged:

??
Chin Meng ?
Aliases: Cheon Mung, Ch'in Meng

Filmography (1974-1982)

Actor (16 films)
The Blue Lamp in Winter Night (1974)
All in the Dim Cold Night (1974)
Ghost Under the Cold Moonlight (1975)
Can Deng You Ling San Geng Tian (1976)
The Invincible Swordswoman (1977)
The Shaolin Brothers (1977) ... Lin Hsiang-Yan
The Old Lock (1977)
Hong Yan Qing Jue Nu You Ling (1977)
Witty Hand, Witty Sword (1978)
Ninth Brother Encounters Ghost (1978)
Xue Zhong Lian (1978)
Hong Si Yuan (1978)
Wu Pen Yuan Hun (1978)
The Silver Spear (1979) ... Mistress Yu Liu
The Silent Lake (1979)
Jade Dagger Ninja (1982) ... Sai Chu Chu

with

??
Fan Ling ?

Filmography (1968-1974)

Actor (18 films)
The Wandering Knight (1968)
Escort (1968)
General Kuan (1969) ... Lady Guan
The Magic Sword (1) (1969)
The Mysterious Knight (1969)
Ringing Sword (1969)
Clam Fairy (1970)
Way Ching Killed the Dragon (1970)
The Magic Bowl (1970)
Revenge of Ghost (1971)
The Tiger and the Dragon (1971)
The Wedding Song (1971) ... Jenny Hung
Flyer and Magic Sword (1971)
The Adventure (1972) ... Wan Shi-Ye's Wife
Tian Men Zhen (1972)
Furious Dragon (1973) ... [2 roles]
The Shanghai Boxer (1973)
The Furious Avenger (1974)

Result:

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

About Fan Ling (2) I check soon WHIRLWIND KNIGHT.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:00 am
by Michael Kistner
Merged:

??
Chin Meng ?
Aliases: Cheon Mung, Ch'in Meng

Filmography (1974-1982)

Actor (16 films)
The Blue Lamp in Winter Night (1974)
All in the Dim Cold Night (1974)
Ghost Under the Cold Moonlight (1975)
Can Deng You Ling San Geng Tian (1976)
The Invincible Swordswoman (1977)
The Shaolin Brothers (1977) ... Lin Hsiang-Yan
The Old Lock (1977)
Hong Yan Qing Jue Nu You Ling (1977)
Witty Hand, Witty Sword (1978)
Ninth Brother Encounters Ghost (1978)
Xue Zhong Lian (1978)
Hong Si Yuan (1978)
Wu Pen Yuan Hun (1978)
The Silver Spear (1979) ... Mistress Yu Liu
The Silent Lake (1979)
Jade Dagger Ninja (1982) ... Sai Chu Chu

with

??
Fan Ling ?

Filmography (1968-1974)

Actor (18 films)
The Wandering Knight (1968)
Escort (1968)
General Kuan (1969) ... Lady Guan
The Magic Sword (1) (1969)
The Mysterious Knight (1969)
Ringing Sword (1969)
Clam Fairy (1970)
Way Ching Killed the Dragon (1970)
The Magic Bowl (1970)
Revenge of Ghost (1971)
The Tiger and the Dragon (1971)
The Wedding Song (1971) ... Jenny Hung
Flyer and Magic Sword (1971)
The Adventure (1972) ... Wan Shi-Ye's Wife
Tian Men Zhen (1972)
Furious Dragon (1973) ... [2 roles]
The Shanghai Boxer (1973)
The Furious Avenger (1974)

Result:

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

About Fan Ling (2) I check soon WHIRLWIND KNIGHT.

Re: Chin Meng and Fan Ling same person?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:22 am
by Michael Kistner
One other thing, Fan Ling ??, and Fan Ling (2) ??might be the same person, if you compare their HKFA credits


I remove Fan Ling soon from THE WHIRLWIND KNIGHT because she is not in the movie and the name is not listed in the credits.

I merge soon both Fan Ling because the HKFA book says at both names that Chin Meng is the alt name.