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Dragon from Shaolin / Silberfaust der Shaolin ???

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:34 pm
by Easternpaul
Hi there!
I just found this nice forum in the web. I assume you are real experienced in classic kungfu movies.
So maybe someone can help me with my problem:
I'm seriously looking for any further information (alternative titel etc.) about the movie "Die Silberfaust der Shaolin" aka "Dragon from Shaolin". I just found few piece of information at the German online-cinema-forum OFDB:

http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=film&fid=6405

but no further information elsewhere in the world wide web.

So I would be really really happy, if you could help me!!
8)
Thanks a lot!!
Best wishes, Easternpaul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:56 pm
by heinz Germany
From German to German - Paul:

I don't trust that OMDB very much cause it's full of mistakes some time ago and that's why I never came back after some disaapointments.
Looks like all they have is the credits taken from the cinema poster which need not to be the real credits to my experience. (I could show lots of german posters with wrong names or names from actors stolen from other movies) I am pretty sure that this is an korean production which maybe is not listed in the HKMDB. Tommy KIM (Director) KIM is the korean Name par excellance - like German "Müller" (or even more)
You should browse the korean movie data base which is difficult cause
the names might be fake. I can provide You scans of 10 lobby cards which show no familiar HK or taiwan actor face (I guess)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:16 pm
by Easternpaul
Hallo Heinz!!
Thanks a lot for your information!
Indeed OFDB isn't very reliable especially concerning rare movies... :?
I found some information about Li Ying Ying and Bruce Cheung, but no further info about any other person involved in this movie.
Maybe the director's name Timmy Kim is just another alias of Godfrey Ho ??
Oh: I just got the information that in Germany the movie was also released as "Todesfäuste der Shaolin" (but I can't find anything about this, too) :(

I'm really glad about any piece of information!!!
Thanks a lot!!
Cheers, Easternpaul

Dragon from Shaolin

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:20 pm
by Bruce
I have been told that "Dragon from Shaolin" is Korean, and is this film in the Korean Film Archive:
http://www.koreafilm.or.kr/english/db_d ... taid=03243

One of other two actors listed there is Nam Chung-Il, who is also in the HKMDB at
http://www.hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mht ... ay_set=eng

The lead actor is not in any other films at the KFA, so I'm not sure who he is without seeing the film.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:29 pm
by Easternpaul
Hi Bruce!!
Yeah!!! That's exactly the movie I requested!!!
Thanks a lot for your information and the link!!
According to the www.ofdb.de database the lead actor (who has the pseudonym Richard Kong) also appears in this movie:
http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=film&fid=33523
EAGLE VS. SILVERFOX, which seems to be this one:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165745/ (Bicheongwon)

Maybe you know the actor??

Thanks a lot!
Best wishes, Easternpaul

"Richard Kong"?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:17 pm
by Bruce
Most of the English cast names in those Korean films which were re-released by Godfrey Ho, are fake names. Just because somebody copied them into the IMDB doesn't mean anything.

The star of Eagle vs. Silver Fox is Kwak Mu Seong, who is in the HKMDB at
http://www.hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mht ... ay_set=eng
but I don't know if he is the same person as "Richard Kong".

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:28 pm
by heinz Germany
So the korean Hint was sucessfull even though I failed to find that myself

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:40 pm
by Easternpaul
Hallo Bruce, Hallo Heinz!!
Thanks al lot for your information!!
I just made some screenshots of the main characters. Some characters appear with several looks due to the story which plays within a time of at least 20 years...

This is the movie's hero:

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(at the beginning of the movie)

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(later in the film...)

The movie's heroine:
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The wise monk:
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The main villain:
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(at the beginning of the film...)

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(the same villain later on...)

Two other evil men:
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(This guy seems to be Nam Chung Ii...)

Two other important characters:
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Maybe you can recognize any person on the photos??
Thanks a lot for your great help!!! 8)

Cheers, Easternpaul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:55 pm
by MrBooth
Looks like a pretty good quality DVD release - where is it from? What are the language & subtitle options for it? :D

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:15 pm
by Easternpaul
Hi MrBooth!
The Screenshots are taken from a preview-DVD from the German Label NEW ENTERTAINMENT WORLD which will release the DVD in the end of July / beginning of August 2005.
I don't know exactly the subtitle options but I think the movie will have German and English language. Maybe I can ask for details and post them here. 8)
Best wishes, Easternpaul.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:29 am
by MrBooth
Thanks - I hope they do include English subs! My high school german probably isn't up to the task anymore :p

Actors in the film

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:59 pm
by Bruce
This is what it looks like to me (top to bottom):
1. Kang Yong-Seok aka Kang Yong (in HKMDB as Hong Yung Sek). Also starred in Lover's Fist, Fist of Hercules, Laughing Lover's Fist.
2. (same)
3. Lee Ying Ying
4. (don't know)
5. Bruce Cheung
6. (same)
7. Kwak Mu Seong
8. Nam Chung-Il (Nam Chung Yat)
9. Yoon In-Ha (also in Warriors of Kung Fu, Eagle vs. Silver Fox, Fist of Hercules, not in HKMDB)
10. Choi Mu-Wung (Chui Miu Hung)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:26 am
by Easternpaul
Hi Bruce!
Wow!!
Thanks a lot for your detailed information!!!
This will help me a lot!!

@Mr. Booth:
I just got more information about the DVD:
It seems to come with German and English sound.
But no subs at all...

Cheers, Easternpaul