Connie chan Po-chu: her movies

by **stooges0** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:27 pm

you write Eternal Love. When I watched it, it seemed like parts had been cut and the color badly faded.

my answer:
1. missing beginning name

2. the part where connie visit fong fong when she is sick , the section of the song that start with 'ching ko jong yee chai long....there is a few line of talking that now a days call 'rap' is missing, you can tell from the lyric at the end of that part.

3. when ka yin find connie , about the part connie go to the cemetary, ka yin say a few word to connie that whole phrases was cut

4. war after the 2 drummer and figinting with the fat guy you see a bunch of soldier walking toward the screen facing you, before those soldier there should be connie in between and a small song sang by female chorus.

don't remember the rest....that is all for now

by **dleedlee** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:42 pm

there is a few line of talking that now a days call 'rap' is missing,
Does anyone know what the term for this is called? I always enjoy it, especially when Leung Sing Bo is doing it. So can we claim that Chinese invented 'rap', too?

re: Eternal Love, I was a little confused at the end concerning the celestial beings. Can you explain what was going on? Was she being returned from the dead? On, Wun Fei Ying, interesting, any additional background on her? thx.

by **dleedlee** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:51 pm

Sookjen, thank you very much for clearing that up for me. I should have figured out it was that old staple - the dream scene! That's why I both love and hate the opera movies, great stories but hard (for me) to always follow.

(..problems with IE, otherwise I'd try to write more) :cry:

by **dleedlee** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:24 pm

I learn to appreciate Chinese culture and hertiage especially more now , now that I see the Chinese diminishing into learning their own culture, language and heritage. It is ashamed!

Yes, see my previous rant on the thread about English Subtitles. Well, this dog is too old to go to Chinese classes now, believe me.

Flashback: I believe my Cantonese opera days started when my mom dropped my brother and I off in the aduitorium/gymnasium at the old Chinese Community Church downtown while she went to service. In the gym, all us kids ran around and played in the dark while on the screen some old opera movie would be playing. I don't remember watching any of it all but I'll always remember the music and drums and gongs: cha-chang, chang, chang... Somehow, decades later it still sticks with me and I just love it now when I hear it. And then vcds came along... :lol:

The rest is VISA transaction history. :shock:

That's my only explanation for somehow recognizing the likes of Leung Sing Bo, Ko Lo Chuen, Yee Chau-Sui and other 'familiar' faces and voices way before I started 'watching' Cantonese films. In fact, my mother doesn't like the opera and my father only recently started attending to accompany me. I think he's always enjoyed it but never had the chance due to working and before that, back in GZ and HK the times and conditions weren't amenable.

Okay, no more walking down Distant Memory Lane.

by **Bruce** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:42 pm

I recently saw The Furious Buddha's Palm, and I really liked Connie in it. She played someone raised by monkeys, so all of her fighting was monkey style. :lol:

I've put up a cast photo page for the film at
http://www.angelfire.com/az/ying/castd/fbp.htm

I also liked The Dragon Fortress, which was a remake of the Hollywood film "The Professionals".

by **dleedlee** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:14 pm

Yes, she was very good as the monkey, wasn't she!

I'm waiting for my next 'crate' of films to arrive from yesasia. Almost all b/w, I can't remember which ones have Connie in it but maybe: Monkey King Stormed the Sea Palace, Reincarnation of Lady Plum Blossom and Her Tender Love plus some Siao Fong Fong: Mother Wants Me To Get Married, Miss Fragrance/Perfume ...

by **dleedlee** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:42 pm

sookjen wrote:Hey Bruce, Thanks for putting those pics on your website - awesome man. Are you a big fan of Chan? I remember seeing this as a little kid at the theatres - my eyes would popped open and say ah wah, ho yeah! The fifth installment which is Budda Palm 9th technique Mang Fut Chiu Zhong and introduces Chan and Siao together. So I was glad they put this in a boxset so I can watch it - Yeah, Chan did really good fighting monkey style and she collaborated well with Siao - so hence forth the many mo hup films they did together. Dragon Fortress I have never seen but now I have --good thing for dvd and vcds - Chan looks and fights awesome here. I think in her earlier mo hup films, she does more acrobactics like tumbles and cartwheels.

Hey Dleedlee - Tender Love, I think that is the one where Chan goes and works as a factory worker hence the famous song Yay to the Factory Worker. She was the factory worker's idol because she brought forth the hardship of the job and long hours - I remember my mom's friends singing the song. Purple Blossom you will enjoy as much as I did. It is a little harder to understand but you will get the gest of it. Monkey stormed the Dragon Palace - that one is real old and some of it was real boring but there are no wires - so you see Chan and Sum Chi Wah - Princess #2 fighting.

Dragon Fortress - I couldnt' remember which one that was so I rewatched it last night. I'm glad I did, It's a great story but marred by the lousy video presentation - partially cropped, so there's a lot of blank screen space. It really is a nice gem of a film. Suet Nei and Connie make a good pairing. Kenneth Tsang is quite good as the gambling swordsman and the action scenes are numerous. But I think the mulitple story lines is what makes it for me. And, another Sai Gwa Pauu sighting!

Her Tender Love - so this is the film that made Connie the hero of Hong Kong factory girls? Great.

Purple Blossom - yeah, I know it'll be a little difficult but what the heck. I have excerpts from a Yam/Bak version on an OK collection so it'll be interesting to compare the singing.

by **dleedlee** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:42 pm

The Yam/Bak ones I did see was Princess Cheung Ping and Purple Hairpin, those are classics. Yam/Bak had students as well in particular Lung Geem Sang and Mui Suet See. Mui was in concert with Chan singing Princess Cheung Ping theme song which never got on the CD- so sad and feel cheated. I hope they re-released and put on 3 cds.

I have not gotten around to watching the full version of Purple Hairpin though I've had a copy for years. Same with Princess Cheung Ping, there are two versions commonly available. One I bought for my parents and the other I kept for myself.

Dragon Fortress - the music, the fighting is just like another movie I saw called Dragon Swamp with Chen Pei Pei which is a Shaw Bros film which came out later. So I suspect Shaw Bros imitated the techniques and fashion , style of this movie.

I've been hearing about this one. It sounded pretty good. So worthwhile, even without Connie? :-)

I hope industry will release more of her swordplay movies especially the ones where she is with Siao Fong Fong - those are very well done and you can watch them over and over again and not get bored. The only one I got is Infernal Gate

I haven't been able to locate Infernal Gate. Is it only on VHS or something?

So far, I've seen them together in, besides Eternal Love: Madame White Snake (though I'm not quite sure who they played, minor roles I think), The Hero and The Beauty I,II, and Aftermath of a Fire I,II.
The latter was a pretty good revenge film (with a pagoda of death guarded by skeletons!), the former I can't remember too well off hand.

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:05 pm

When I was a kid, I think I remember going with my mom to see both Yam/Bak's Princess Cheung Ping and Purple Hairpin and I only remember with Princess Cheung Ping, the end scene where they drink poisin and die was in color, everything else was in black and white. Of course, I understood nothing and was bored to death. So when I gotten older, I saw the versions of the same with their disciples - that was in color I think but I still did not understand. So if you got Yam/Bak - that is cool.

Yeah, Dragon Swamp or Poisin Dragon Swamp - chinese characters was with Cheng Pei Pei and Yueh Wah - really good movie from what I remember. She also did Come Drink With Me -that one is awesome.

Agreed, on Come Drink with Me. Justifiable classic. Have you seen the fourth Shaw's Monkey King film - Land of Many Perfumes? That's the only I haven't seen yet. I really liked Cave of the Silken Web, that was so fun.

Madam White Snake - that one is out of print and I could not even buy it. Hero and the Beauty I,II- is that in color and did it have characters like Jade Face? Wow, if you got that - that is awesome, I wish I can see that one. Ok, Infernal Gate that is what I called it and it is called AfterMath of A Fire I,II - that one I liked a lot along with another great one Banner of Twin Phoenix - of course, nowhere to be found

Madame White Snake, I'm pretty sure was a bootleg I bought.
Hero and the Beauty - 鐵劍朱痕 - is where everyone is trying to steal the Iron Sword inherited by Cheung Ying Tsoi. And it is in color.
Infernal Gate - Okay, now you're sending me on a wild goose chase, huh? :wink:

Are you in Hong Kong or USA?
U-S-A, U-S-A, ...sorry :lol:

(<-- profile's on the left, under the name)

My package arrived yesterday, it's Christmas in September! I feel like Forrest Gump, which one do I choose first?

Bruce - thanks for the info on The Professionals, I wasn't aware of that film.
Which version do you prefer?[/i]

by **Bruce** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:53 pm

Bruce - thanks for the info on The Professionals, I wasn't aware of that film.
Which version do you prefer?

It's been many, many years since I saw The Professionals, but the main plot twist stuck in my mind because it was so unusual for a western, which normally has a standard good guys vs. bad guys plot. When I saw The Dragon Fortress, I recognized the plot right away. Of course the Hollywood film had bigger production values, but I thought it was a stroke of genius to make two of the mercenaries as females, in The Dragon Fortress. That removed the super-macho edge of the original film. Suet Nei was my favorite character in the film, and it seems to me that Hsu Feng's hard-edged portrayals in the 1970's were modeled on Suet Nei here. Meanwhile, Kenneth Tsang's role had the most personality, and carried the film's humor. But, like most films of the 1960's, the martial arts choreography wasn't up to 1970's standards. Very enjoyable, nevertheless.

http://www.angelfire.com/az3/kitty/castc/drf.htm

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:09 pm

Bruce wrote:
Bruce - thanks for the info on The Professionals, I wasn't aware of that film.
Which version do you prefer?

It's been many, many years since I saw The Professionals, but the main plot twist stuck in my mind because it was so unusual for a western, which normally has a standard good guys vs. bad guys plot. When I saw The Dragon Fortress, I recognized the plot right away. Of course the Hollywood film had bigger production values, but I thought it was a stroke of genius to make two of the mercenaries as females, in The Dragon Fortress. That removed the super-macho edge of the original film. Suet Nei was my favorite character in the film, and it seems to me that Hsu Feng's hard-edged portrayals in the 1970's were modeled on Suet Nei here. Meanwhile, Kenneth Tsang's role had the most personality, and carried the film's humor. But, like most films of the 1960's, the martial arts choreography wasn't up to 1970's standards. Very enjoyable, nevertheless.

http://www.angelfire.com/az3/kitty/castc/drf.htm

I read the summary of The Professionals at the imdb and think it works much better, as you say, with the two sisters. Suet Nei definitely had the meaty role as the bitter, money driven stepsister. I'm going to keep an out for more of her films. (She was quite adorable and versatile playing 3 parts in One Queen and Three Kings, a contemporary comedy.) Kenneth Tsang is constantly surprising me as I see more of his earlier films. He was quite dashing in this one, and as I said in my writeup in the db, at times Mifune-like. The swordplay was a mixed bag, I'm no connoiseur but Tsang Kong's Japanese style in the first half was superior to the more conventional style in the latter part.

by **Bruce** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:50 am

I've made a cast photo page for Six-Fingered Lord of the Lute (3-part film), at
http://www.angelfire.com/az/ying/castd/6fl.htm

If anyone can match up any of the the leftover cast list with the "to be identified" photos, please let me know.

by **dleedlee** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:28 pm

edit: I went back and rewatched the 3 parts yesterday. I was wrong on Yung Yuk Yi, she's definitely the scarred up woman. On your current list, with the new(?)numbers

#11 - Yue Ming - the taller of the two brothers
#4 - Yung Yuk Yi - scarred old woman
#16 - I'd swear was Chan Lap Ban - with the fangs

by **Bruce** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:04 am

sookjen:

Many thanks for the information. Is "Chang San" in the HKMDB as Cheung Sang?

by **Bruce** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:17 pm

I've noticed that in some of her films she sings Chinese versions of big American pop songs from the 1960's. For example:

Black Killer
"You Were On My Mind"
"Can't Help Falling in Love"

Lady Black Cat
"Wooly Bully" :wink:

Can anyone list any other such instances?

by **dleedlee** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:57 am

Incredible Rumor and Love Him, Hate Him,Miss Him both feature
"San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers in Your Hair)". I can't remember in which one she actually sings it or maybe it's both.

On a related note, Georgy Girl, A Taste of Honey, and Colonel Bogey's March (from or popularized? in Bridge Over The River Kwai) seem to be favorites of music directors. Other themes that frequently appear in the '60s are Love is a Many Splendored Thing, Holst's The Planets (Mars), and Nessun Dorma. I've also heard versions of Honky Tonk Woman and Satisfaction (on sax) and a polka version of Can't Buy Me Love used. And if you like surf rock, Hong Kong movies are the place to go. I've been tempted to make a compilation CD just from music used in 60's Hong Kong films.

I think Black Killer also used the Peter Gunn Theme as well as A Taste of Honey.

edit: In Incredible Rumor, another singer sings the song in a club setting.
In Love Him...it's a club setting again, you see a girl on a bandstand start the song and hear the song over the scene so it's hard to tell whether Connie is actually the singer or not. Probably not. Neither, however, is like the two scenes you cited where it's a full on song w/dance routine.

by **jenb** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:53 pm

I am a big fan of the 60's fan princess and want to know if they are cutting any new movies on cd of her. I have been very disappointed lately, she
has so many movies and great ones too that they are not putting on cd unless the movies all went bad.

by **dleedlee** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:58 pm

Not sure if I understand your question but the latest Connie Chan release I know of is GIRL IN RED on the Winson label. That was back in November. I haven't seen all of her already released movies yet! Have you?

http://www.hkwinson.com/newweb/dvddetai ... ilm_id=539

Also recently, Cathay reissued a Mandarin film For Better For Worse with a very young Connie .

My most recent Connie viewing was A Brave Young Girl's Spirit I,II

by **jenb** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:36 pm

Sorry to not be clear! I did get Lady In Red. It was ok, sorta slow and boring but the fight scenes were very interesting. Brave Spirit I,II I watched it as a kid and then on VCD set. It was confusing then and it is confusing now...I guess the whole point of this movie was for Chan to find her father and for Tseng Kong to search his identity and they found each other.

It seems it has been a while since they released any more of her movies and she got so many good ones that I am hoping they will. I see on the Chanpo.net website that another old,old swordplay will be released.

Since you got Lady in Red and Brave Spirit, what did you think of it?

Regards,

Sue

by **dleedlee** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:39 pm

Actually, I haven't seen LADY IN RED yet.

As to BRAVE GIRL, yes it's confusing. All the martial arts films are generally confusing as I try to manage with my limited ABC Cantonese. (Not much talk about Buddha's Palm technique around the dinner table when I was young.) However, I was impressed by the quality of the whole production. It's seems a notch above many that I've seen. Also, the violence seemed...more violent...between the spurting fountain of blood, plucked eyeballs and one Linda Blair/Exorcist-like pea soup hurl.

by **blindswordsman** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:57 am

Hi there:

I really enjoyed Connie Chan in 'Black Rose', so a while ago I bought the VCDs of 'The Snowflake Sword' from yesasia.com. I enjoyed it a lot, but as I don't speak Cantonese and there are no English subtitles, I found it pretty hard to follow. Is there anywhere I can find a plot summary for this interesting swordplay series in English?

Thanks in advance.

by **dleedlee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:46 pm

Not that I'd be much help but I didn't buy Snowflake Sword because it's originally a four part film and it looks like it's been edited down to three parts (6 vcds) or else part 4 is just totally excluded. That may be part of the reason it's so confusing.

Connie chan Po-chu: her movies

Furious Buddha's Palm

Re: Chan Bo Chu and Monkey in Iron Palm Buddist movie

Re: hey dleedlee

The Six-Fingered Lord of the Lute

Thanks!

Connie singing Chinese version of American 60's Pop Hits?

Any new movies for Chan Bo Chu coming?

Chan Bo Chu movies - what is coming?

'The Snowflake Sword'

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