Duel at the Supreme Gate (1968)

[Stephe]

added to Duel at the Supreme Gate (1968)
( http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mht ... ay_set=eng ):

1 review
4 credit images
3 box art images
13 portraits
17 screen captures

deleted:

2 redundant portraits
1 redundant screen capture

I am new at this. Hopefully, I did things correctly.

[Gaijin84]

Looks good!
I think we're trying to avoid the multiple images of the same actor/actress though. There are lots of portraits of Betty Loh Tih, so not sure five are needed, just one is fine. Lau Sin-Mung (1) is ok because it rounds it out to 4 portraits.
We're still waiting on a final decision, but it seems to moving in the direction that one portrait per actor unless a major costume/makeup change or they have less than four portraits.

Everything else is good!

[Stephe]

I think we're trying to avoid the multiple images of the same actor/actress though. There are lots of portraits of Betty Loh Tih, so not sure five are needed, just one is fine. Lau Sin-Mung (1) is ok because it rounds it out to 4 portraits.
We're still waiting on a final decision, but it seems to moving in the direction that one portrait per actor unless a major costume/makeup change or they have less than four portraits.

Oh, I see.

So, one portrait for each actor, but non-portrait screen captures
are not limited, then?

I'll alter what is in the photos section tomorrow, then. Thanks.

[Stephe]

I'd also like to be able to add character names for Duel at the Supreme
Gate (1968), where currently none of the actors are paired with their
character names, but I don't think I have permission to do so.

So far, I have:

Betty Loh Tih: Sun Yuk Bin
Zhang Yang: Chee Chun Nam
Kelly Lai Chen: Sun Tai Yong
Sek Kin: Kuan Han Pin
Man Lan: Fong Sui Lin
Wang Sun: Cheng Tai Chun
Sun Yuen Fei: the Supreme Gate Clan's old master
Hao Li-Jen: the Southern Sky Clan's old master

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I have since seen at the viewtopic.php?f=7&t=51299 thread that
the character names above have been added. Thank you.

[bkasten]

I think we're trying to avoid the multiple images of the same actor/actress though. There are lots of portraits of Betty Loh Tih, so not sure five are needed, just one is fine. Lau Sin-Mung (1) is ok because it rounds it out to 4 portraits.
We're still waiting on a final decision, but it seems to moving in the direction that one portrait per actor unless a major costume/makeup change or they have less than four portraits.

Oh, I see.

So, one portrait for each actor, but non-portrait screen captures
are not limited, then?

I'll alter what is in the photos section tomorrow, then. Thanks.

Stephen,

Put as many portraits as you would like. We simply want to avoid too many too-similar portraits. The goal of portraits is for identification of performers.

I am a much more reluctant to use too many screen captures, however.

The portraits and caps need some serious clean up work, and I am proceeding with setting up some methods to make that easier.

Bob

[Stephe]

Put as many portraits as you would like. We simply want to avoid too many too-similar portraits. The goal of portraits is for identification of performers.

Okay.

I am a much more reluctant to use too many screen captures, however.

Why would that be? What would constitute too many? Are there different
guidelines for suggested amount of screen captures for different types of
genres of films? Does it have anything to do with a film's popularity, or
obscurity, or historical significance?

And by contrast, what would constute too many portraits -- not of the
same actor -- but of other actors? For example, I have encountered pages
for films where over a hundred extras are afforded a profile photo each,
swelling the page to 5 or so screen's worth of often blurry portraits. Is it
common practice to treat this is as completely allowable?

The Kingdom and the Beauty (1959) has portraits of 125 different actors.
The Heroic Ones (1970) has portraits of 151 different actors. I have been
to pages that have twice that, but can't recall the titles of any, offhand.

[Gaijin84]

And by contrast, what would constute too many portraits -- not of the
same actor -- but of other actors? For example, I have encountered pages
for films where over a hundred extras are afforded a profile photo each,
swelling the page to 5 or so screen's worth of often blurry portraits. Is it
common practice to treat this is as completely allowable?

The Kingdom and the Beauty (1959) has portraits of 125 different actors.
The Heroic Ones (1970) has portraits of 151 different actors. I have been
to pages that have twice that, but can't recall the titles of any, offhand.

The portraits are really used to confirm that the actor/actress is in the film and provide a reference for future identifications. Are there films that need to have duplicate images pared down or low quality ones removed? Definitely. In the case of The Heroic Ones, if there are 151 different actors in the movie then 151identifiable portraits are warranted, within reason (you're not going to have a portrait of someone in the 5th row of a crowd). There are members here that spend a lot of time identifying actors and actresses that may have not had top billing but have extensive filmographies. The goal is to have accurate listings for every actor and actress, no matter what their popularity. Examples of these can be found by searching for "Unknown Actor." Updating the database is an ongoing (and probably never-ending) process.

[Stephe]

Re Duel at the Supreme Gate (1968)
(http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mht ... ay_set=eng ):

Hao Li-Jen ... Southern Sky Clan's old master

is more accurately

Hao Li-Jen ... the Southern Sky Sage

since he is referred to as such in the film.

[Stephe]

At http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/images.m ... ay_set=eng . ..

I deleted 7 portraits and added 15 portraits
and
I deleted 2 screen captures and added 10 screen captures.

I think I'm finally done with tweaking the pics there.

[calros]

changed role and added prod.

[Stephe]

At http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/credits. ... ay_set=eng
I added 13 more credits screen captures, to make a total of 17 screen
captures.

Those are the complete credits from the DVD.

When I had only put on the film company logo, title card and end card,
I hadn't realized how valuable the rest of the credits were to the HKMDb
listings. Now I do, so I put the rest of them online.

Stephe

[calros]

Highly valuable info! added 1 assist. dir., continuity, phot., mus., ed., art dir., makeup, costumes and props.