2007: The Digital Scrounge

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Postby Mike Thomason » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:14 am

Brian Thibodeau wrote:Ah, cool. Now I see. It all sounded pretty par-for-the-course to me, even familiar (the only difference being the lack of a live-in), but I get the ol' fish-eye when I'm not quite sure of the context, so to speak. ;) I can think of a few people in the real world—extended family no less—who've made similar assumptions when they've seen my collection, which for the most part resides in discreetly tucked away tote bins. Of course, I also remember the times they figured they could borrow some of those same movies and were rather shocked when I said no! :lol: I suppose anyone with a consuming passion or hobby like this has to put up with skeptics sooner or later.


It's one of the few things that sorely gets up my nose about the internet: that sometimes you have to justify something you've typed, even before a response has been made, sometimes just in the interest of NOT having arguments with people who a) don't understand something as written or b) simply trawl forums looking for a fight (the "troll" mentality). Thus, sometimes you'll see statements like the one at the bottom of that post from me in the vague hope that it will diffuse any negativity before it occurs -- it's not designed to invoke negativity, just cautionary words from myself borne out of years of doing this (the internet thing) and having tackled my fair share of "problematic" personalities in my time... :?
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Postby Mike Thomason » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:54 pm

Brian Thibodeau wrote:CURSE OF THE SUN (Thailand, 2004, Tai Seng version, I think).
Thai cinema disappoints on such a consistent basis that I might have to keep my expectations kinda low.


Maybe you're not exploring the right genres of Thai cinema, as there's surely some fine films to be had from the Kingdom? But if you're after disappointment, then I am sure this unmitigated dog of a film is going to reward you in spades! Words fail me from describing just how truly awful this mess of a film was -- every half decent idea it exhibited, was stolen from somewhere else (some of the copycat stunt steals are so blatant you're going to wonder how they didn't slapped with plagiarism suits!). Don't say that I didn't warn you... :shock:
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Postby Masterofoneinchpunch » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:27 pm

Brian Thibodeau wrote:I does seem like that may be the case based on this and previous comments! Perhaps web designers are as dime-a-dozen down there as they are up here, and you could shop around for someone more productive?


I hope you mean graphic guys and not people who architect heterogeneous n-tier (preferably MVC) solutions that just happens to use http and a web front. :D And even then good-to-great graphic guys are still hard to get (yes there are tons around, even here in Modesto).

Oh and bought Bells of Death HK 1968 (not to be confused with Balls of Death) which just came out for R1 on Image/Celestial.

For Thai films there is always Legend of Suriyothai (wait it also was not that great; well it got silly towards the end).

And cheers to all collectors, if this is the worst of our vices (I don't view it as a vice since I tend to study film as a hobby) then we are not doing too bad (quick credit card rant; I actually managed to get through college without one of those and still have never had one since, so also cheers to those who only have one or none).
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:20 pm

Mike Thomason wrote:Maybe you're not exploring the right genres of Thai cinema, as there's surely some fine films to be had from the Kingdom? But if you're after disappointment, then I am sure this unmitigated dog of a film is going to reward you in spades! Words fail me from describing just how truly awful this mess of a film was -- every half decent idea it exhibited, was stolen from somewhere else (some of the copycat stunt steals are so blatant you're going to wonder how they didn't slapped with plagiarism suits!). Don't say that I didn't warn you... :shock:


:lol:

Derivative is a word that often comes to mind after I've watched a Thai movie. I recently watched a high-profile one called MERCURY MAN that came sooo close to breaking with that tradition, but still managed to simply remind me of all the films it was lifting from. I don't mind cinematic pilfering in the least, but preferably when it's done well enough that your brain isn't constantly flipping through its filofax of "references."

I treat Thai cinema as I do Hong Kong cinema—I'll watch anything, basically—so I have seen a few gems over the years, but whenever I watch a batch of Thailand's more common/populist styles of cinema, I come away disappointed more often than not. Some of the things you say about this CURSE OF THE SUN remind me of thoughts I've had while watching other Thai genre movies. I suppose I could say the same about Hong Kong cinema, Korean cinema, American cinema, and what have you, but perhaps I'm just more attuned to those cinemas at this point. I wonder if the most memorable Thai movies are just raising my personal expectations higher than a the country's low-budget, often derivative film industry can meet. Probably just me.... Nonetheless, as this thread attests, I don't mind watching even the worst movies at least once, so perhaps my expectations will now be lowered enough to spot a mild "moment" or two!



I hope you mean graphic guys and not people who architect heterogeneous n-tier (preferably MVC) solutions that just happens to use http and a web front. And even then good-to-great graphic guys are still hard to get (yes there are tons around, even here in Modesto).


Heck, I am a graphics guy, so I guess I have to include myself in my original comment! :lol: Once upon a time, I designed a very small handful of websites for various employers, but only partially. Designing a site in terms of its appearance was about as far as I could go; building one was (and is) entirely outside my knowledge, ability and, sadly, intereest! :oops: I can come up with a look, but someone else inevitably has to make it functional, which obviously keeps me largely out of the business! :lol: Nonetheless, if I could count the number of people who do either graphics, or architecture, or BOTH, these days compared with, say 20 years ago, I'd need a very powerful calculator. Largely because I suck at math. :D


And cheers to all collectors, if this is the worst of our vices (I don't view it as a vice since I tend to study film as a hobby) then we are not doing too bad (quick credit card rant; I actually managed to get through college without one of those and still have never had one since, so also cheers to those who only have one or none).


Put me in the "one card" camp, though I do have to use it on occasion, I'm afraid. But the thought of ever paying even a cent of interest on it generally keeps me in line! What you say about vices is so true, though. It's the old "well, I could be doing THIS and I'm not" routine. Geeky-snobby as it may sound, I rather like being able to point at something "tangible" when someone asks me what I do with my expendable income.

This thread should prove how cheap a hobby this can really be, especially for lovers of Asian cinema and newcomers (or slow movers like myself) who weren't such a big part of the old Hong Kong cinema-via-VHS days.

As Mike says, if you wait for sales, don't buy everything on release day, or aren't above a good round of bargain bin diving as I've been doing since before the first post, then you can enjoy a lot of Asian cinema without going broke. Factor in trade-ins at local shops, ebay, Amazon Marketplace and the like, and you've several good ways to unload titles you don't like and recoup a bit of money for more goodies. It's so much easier to make blind buys these days, too, when you don't have to pay sticker price in the shops. I probably spent more on this hobby 15 years ago than I do now, and got a lot less for my money (especially during the Laserdisc years :( )
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Postby cal42 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:37 pm

Brian Thibodeau wrote: I probably spent more on this hobby 15 years ago than I do now, and got a lot less for my money (especially during the Laserdisc years :( )


God, yes. The Internet/DVD revolution has really opened everything up beyond what anyone could have imagined I think. Prior to that, the only way for us to get a lot of titles was by visiting organised "film fairs", where you'd buy VHS tapes of dubious authenticity for anything up to £25 a film. For non-UK readers, an original DVD from Yesasia will usually cost about £5-£15. I remember coming away from a lot of those with plastic bags full of tapes and having spent a small fortune! Now the whole lot would cost a fraction of that if you looked carefully.

I missed out on the Laserdisc years, and I'm damn glad I did, now. I reckon I would have been in serious trouble financially while all that was going on.
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:20 pm

cal42 wrote:God, yes. The Internet/DVD revolution has really opened everything up beyond what anyone could have imagined I think. Prior to that, the only way for us to get a lot of titles was by visiting organised "film fairs", where you'd buy VHS tapes of dubious authenticity for anything up to £25 a film. For non-UK readers, an original DVD from Yesasia will usually cost about £5-£15. I remember coming away from a lot of those with plastic bags full of tapes and having spent a small fortune! Now the whole lot would cost a fraction of that if you looked carefully.

I missed out on the Laserdisc years, and I'm damn glad I did, now. I reckon I would have been in serious trouble financially while all that was going on.



Yeah, I find it amusing that I used to consider myself somewhat of an elitist because I had a laserdisc collection. :lol: I was lucky if I could afford one a month (especially those damned box sets), but there was just something so ... scholarly about them that made me feel all superior and stuff!

By the time DVD and eBay rolled around, I was fortunate enough to unload some of the MIA-on-DVD titles in my laserdisc collection for nearly as much (and sometimes more) than I paid for them. The Criterions were good for that, and some of the Looney Tunes box sets, stuff like that. Even a few movie-only titles netted at least some of my money back, but the rest? Sold 'em off in a bundle with the player for about $200! :cry: My collection was never huge, maybe 80-90 discs, so I can only imagine the loss taken by people who'd collected hundreds of the damned things. Still, that format did more to further my love of cinema than any other before or since. DVD is just a continuation, really.

I was never fortunate in those days to have access to film fairs and the like, though I would have spent a fortune, I'm sure. The closest big cities to me at the time were Detroit (an hour away) and Toronto (three), and while they probably had plenty of such events throughout the year, I just wasn't savvy enough to find out about them! What a hick! So for the most part, it was retail and mailorder for me. And the prices I paid! Maaaannn!! :shock: My only relief came when I started working for the daily paper in town and running a "movie trivia" contest alongside my reviews. Got lots of "spoiled" screening tapes that way, which represented a huge savings :lol:, and lots of "giveaway" tapes and laserdiscs, invariably with an "extra" tossed in for me. In fact, that's how I fed my early HK film jones at the time: I started hitting up Tai Seng's Canadian distributor for tapes and LDs for the contest: they prizes often came without shrink-wrap, so I could watch them before I gave them away! Talk about desperate...:D
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Postby Mike Thomason » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:24 pm

Masterofoneinchpunch wrote:
Mike Thomason wrote:... Born To Fight (Thailand) (DVD)*

* the recent remake, not the older version.


I definitely want to hear your opinion on the new Born to Fight.


Not having seen the older version (nor, to be honest, do I harbour any desire to), here's my opinion in a nutshell: it was good in fashion up until about the one hour mark...and then it just flailed and rolled about in overkill territory. Really, how many endings did the film need? It's like Rittakrai had put together his final cut then said, "Oh, hang about, we forgot to include X stunt...and Y too, while I'm at it" and the end result was that the finale just went on and on...and on, and on...

Yeah, it was a bit of crazy fun to see so much carnage and such out-there stunts committed to the screen, but screenwriting obviously wasn't high on the agenda when they put the film together, nor any kind of editing rhythm either for that matter (a bug bear of many Thai genre films). And much like his compatriot, Panom Yeerum (or Tony Jaa, if you like), Daew Chupong really isn't an actor's shadow -- he looks great onscreen when he's fighting and partaking death-defying stunts, but as a performer he's every bit as one note as Yeerum before him. I do tend to love the breakneck techno scores, as well as inspired sound design, on these things though... :shock:

All up, a decent enough Sunday afternoon diversion, but that's all it was for me -- not unlike sitting in at an afternoon matinee when I was a kid. Films like Born To Fight are the epitome of disposable cinema. :P
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Postby Masterofoneinchpunch » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:01 pm

good summation on Born to Fight. I did not think you would be interested in the earlier one (it really is not a remake, only a few stunts are copied and the plot is completely different). It is very raw (though I liked the stunts and fighting esp. Panna Rittikrai's) though the production is weaker than early Jackie Chan's. :)
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:26 pm

Picked up some price-reductions this week, some online and some in-store

LETHAL ANGELS (2006, CN; nice to finally toss the unsubbed Chinese version, or wherever it was from, that I got hosed on a few months back)
GONG TAU (2007, Gold Label, Mark Cheng, Maggie Shaw)
A MOB STORY (2007, Joy Sales; Cheung Tat-ming, Julian Cheung)
MING MING (2007, Joy Sales; Zhou Zun, Daniel Wu; I'm hoping this isn't the overblown music video it looks like from the trailers, so any thoughts will be read with interest ;) )


And a few Korean titles

NEVER TO LOSE
I'M A CYBORG BUT THAT'S OK
PROJECT MAKEOVER
Already watched this one and thought it was pretty good. It's about a girl whose laptop glitch allows her to travel back 13 years and correct some romantic mistakes she made, leading to the expected complications and climactic melodrama. Still doesn't give me much hope for Korean cinema overall, or my passive interest these days, but it was as good as any other Korean romantic comedy done right, which I guess isn't surprising since it's popped out of from a well-used mold)


And on a related note—since this thread was never intended to be just a series of lists—we popped into the Japan Foundation offices in downtown Toronto today. I'd tried to get in there before, but always managed to show up when they were closed. We mainly went for the art exhibit they had on, but in exploring what I thought was their Japanese-language-only library, we discovered hundreds of English books on the subject in one part of the room, hundreds more music CDs across a range of genres and, best of all, hundreds more DVDs and videos (and even laserdiscs), most with subtitles (including most of Criterion's Japanese titles; even the new Ozu box :shock:). As I'm not one to re-visit Japanese titles once I've bought them on DVD, this seems like a far more affordable alternative, plus they've even got viewing stations! :D

The Japan Foundation seems to be an international one, so some of you city-dwellers may want to check your local listings to see if you've got an office in your own backyards.
http://www.jftor.org/index.php

And finally, having ogled the unaffordable 50 Years of Janus Films DVD collection at various online retailers, I was surprised to discover the Cinematheque Ontario is hosting 50 Years of Janus Films, a big-screen retrospective of 40 titles, including several Japanese classics and many titles from the box set, until mid-August. Not sure if this is a touring show of some kind, so again, you folks might wanna check your local papers.
http://www.cinemathequeontario.ca/progr ... ammeId=144
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Postby Mike Thomason » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:40 am

Brian Thibodeau wrote:LETHAL ANGELS (2006, CN; nice to finally toss the unsubbed Chinese version, or wherever it was from, that I got hosed on a few months back)
GONG TAU (2007, Gold Label, Mark Cheng, Maggie Shaw)
A MOB STORY (2007, Joy Sales; Cheung Tat-ming, Julian Cheung)
MING MING (2007, Joy Sales; Zhou Zun, Daniel Wu; I'm hoping this isn't the overblown music video it looks like from the trailers, so any thoughts will be read with interest ;) )


Lethal Angels is pretty poor -- much akin to those low, low budget knock-offs of Naked Killer that proliferated over a decade ago. Don't be fooled by the Category III sticker on the sleeve (with Chinese text that proudly proclaims the disc is the "uncensored version"), as it's no such thing -- the TELA only list one version of the film being submitted to them and it runs 97m just like the so-called "uncut" does; the TELA handed down a Category IIB. It's not hard to see why the film was shelved from HK release for over a year... :?

Watched Gong Tau, An Oriental Black Magic (to use its full onscreen title) last night and I thought it was a cracker! Deadly serious, save for a couple of very mild comedic diversions with Benz Hui (or Hui Siu Hung, for those that refuse to believe he has an English name), a bit more "adult" in its usage of full-frontal female, and male, nudity, and...this is what everyone is waiting for...aggressively gory. I'd have to rate it was the best HK horror since The Eye. Word of warning though, if you're Western and unaccustomed to seeing awful things happen onscreen to children, then this one will freak you out -- a newborn baby meets an horrifically grisly end early on, and there's no way in the world any such thing similar would be allowed in commercial Western cinema... :shock: (There were actually a couple of scenes in this one that made me feel a tad queasy...)

Herman Yau's other flick on your list, A Mob Story, is another of the Fortune Star/Basic Pictures HD features, and is actually exceptionally good. It's nice to see Yau working with both decent screenwriters AND decent budgets (ala both titles mentioned here). This is a decent enough outing for Cheung Chi Lam (who seems to have dropped his English name "Julian" sometime ago now) and Cheung Tat Ming (in serious mode for a change); young men without girlfriends or life experience will probably really enjoy Taiwanese actress Yin Shin and her skimpy wardrobe. Not nearly as action-heavy as the trailer makes it appear, I quite enjoyed this as an effective and moody thriller...

Whereas, even though I've had a copy of Ming Ming here since a few days after release, I have been hesitant to watch it for the same reasons as Brian -- the trailers and music video featured on the disc really don't do it any favour in the self-promotion stakes (unless the idea of attractive young Asian women running around in fetish wear acting like anime characters is your ideal concept of perfect entertainment, that is).
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:44 am

Mike Thomason wrote:Lethal Angels is pretty poor -- much akin to those low, low budget knock-offs of Naked Killer that proliferated over a decade ago. Don't be fooled by the Category III sticker on the sleeve (with Chinese text that proudly proclaims the disc is the "uncensored version"), as it's no such thing -- the TELA only list one version of the film being submitted to them and it runs 97m just like the so-called "uncut" does; the TELA handed down a Category IIB. It's not hard to see why the film was shelved from HK release for over a year... :?


I actually watched most of this on the unsubbed version and thought it was very well made but not particularly compelling, and not just because it lacked subs, since it isn't particularly hard to follow, but I knew I had to see the subbed version before I made up my mind. Is there any reason for these fake Cat. III ratings beyond spicing up sales of average movies. I've seen it a handful of times now and it's sad to know that the original blame for any inevitable misinformation that will spread on a title like this in the coming years can be laid at the feet of the actual distributor. (yeah, I know, the viewer should do the research and all that, but it's still a silly practice. Lucrative, I'm sure, but silly).

Incidentally, I've long referred to Hui Siu-hung as Benz in my scribblings (like the SUPER FANS review posted here) and I've caught a few similar sightings over the past year or more, so you're not alone out there! I'm guessing that these things just take time to catch on. Of course, I wonder which version he prefers... :lol:



If you're Western and unaccustomed to seeing awful things happen onscreen to children, then this one will freak you out -- a newborn baby meets an horrifically grisly end early on


:?:

Well, we'll certainly be prepared for it now. There's one shock gone for this shock lover! :lol: It does seem like it's been awhile since even Hong Kong filmmakers did something to really earn a Category III rating, and indeed it is nice to see Yau finally (hopefully) moving away from dreadful stuff like DATING DEATH and what have you. I'm curious, did GONG TAU have any legs at the box office? It certainly sounds like it's got the quality aspect all wrapped up! If it didn't get much play, then perhaps we might be able to dredge up some similarly-released western flicks where young 'uns meet untimely fates, if memory permits. :lol:



young men without girlfriends or life experience will probably really enjoy Taiwanese actress Yin Shin and her skimpy wardrobe.


:lol:

Surely they aren't the only types who would enjoy such a thing? ;)



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Started watching the NEW OPTION series of films tonight. Much as I'd prefer it, I can't live on new releases all the time when so many titles like these have been ignored since day one as far as I can tell! Seriously, has anybody seen any of these or written reviews online? In print? :D They're in the DB, but the listings need a bit of work as they appear to be made from the Tai Seng U.S. releases rather than the Panorama HK releases, which have different original titles in some cases. While I'd imagine detractors of Michael Wong will find little to sway their opinions of him in these films (at least the two I've watched so far), he's only doing what he does best, which is acting rather forgettably—but honestly—in both languages. He's handles some lengthy dialogue sequences in these in Cantonese and seems quite at ease. The first film has two kidnappers who speak extensive English (as a second language) for no real reason and come off far more affected, especially the male half of the duo, who I've yet to ID. These are all shot on video—the kind of video, sadly, that seems to disqualify them as "proper" features or something—albeit with pedestrian direction and cinematography, but the scripts compensate a fair bit by staying true to the formula established in the entire OPTION series, with mild interpersonal drama cutting the main action. Not great, which should come as no surprise, but professional enough to be given a little love. :)
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Postby Masterofoneinchpunch » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:21 pm

picked up two this weekend:

Godzilla Raids Again (1955) Japan: looking forward to listening to George Takei -- oh my. Toho release.
IRON DRAGON STRIKES BACK (1979) Taiwan: picked up from HKFlix (first time from there; couldn't resist the OOP status). More Bruce Li action (and Phillip Ko).
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:31 pm

Masterofoneinchpunch wrote:Godzilla Raids Again (1955) Japan: looking forward to listening to George Takei -- oh my. Toho release.


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Postby Mike Thomason » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:51 am

Brian Thibodeau wrote:
If you're Western and unaccustomed to seeing awful things happen onscreen to children, then this one will freak you out -- a newborn baby meets an horrifically grisly end early on


Well, we'll certainly be prepared for it now. There's one shock gone for this shock lover! :lol:


Well, to be perfectly honest it's not that much of a spoiler -- it occurs early in the film and was used as key imagery in both the film's uncensored trailer (which was featured extensively online) and promotional artwork. In fact, if you've seen the trailer that features some nudity, then you've seen pretty much ALL of the film's major shock setpieces as well as know exactly what's going to happen to who well in advance of seeing the film. The trailer is packed to the gills with spoilers, and a couple of those go so far as to completely ruin the ending! :shock:

However, in other parts...

April Snow (South Korea) (DVD)
Bungee Jumping Of Their Own (South Korea) (DVD)
My Wife Is A Gangster (South Korea) (DVD)
Wedding Campaign (South Korea) (DVD)

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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:36 pm

Mike Thomason wrote:Well, to be perfectly honest it's not that much of a spoiler -- it occurs early in the film and was used as key imagery in both the film's uncensored trailer (which was featured extensively online) and promotional artwork. In fact, if you've seen the trailer that features some nudity, then you've seen pretty much ALL of the film's major shock setpieces as well as know exactly what's going to happen to who well in advance of seeing the film. The trailer is packed to the gills with spoilers, and a couple of those go so far as to completely ruin the ending! :shock:


I see where you're coming from, and I have to admit that I (generally!!) delay watching trailers of Hong Kong movies for these very reasons. Perhaps I'm alone in this thinking nowdays, but having seen too many key setpieces, plot twists and shock moments spoiled by trailers over the years (and not just from Hong Kong), I've gradually come to watch them after I've finished the film. I'm bound to see most HK movies anyways, so the trailers aren't a factor in choosing titles to see (the way they are with U.S. movies, which cost a lot more :lol:). Thus, I haven't seen the Gong Tau spots, and now I'm pretty certain I'll avoid them, especially if they ruin the ending. What's the point in that? :shock:

What is it with trailer makers these days anyways? Are filmmakers & studios so uncertain of the products they make that they're willing to let the marketing people give up any semblance of the tease by bombarding us with all the "good stuff" before we even pay for a ticket or buy the DVD? :evil:
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Postby Mike Thomason » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:17 am

Brian Thibodeau wrote:
young men without girlfriends or life experience will probably really enjoy Taiwanese actress Yin Shin and her skimpy wardrobe.


:lol:

Surely they aren't the only types who would enjoy such a thing? ;)


You know me, Brian, just taking the Mickey! But honestly, from the way some young folk out there write a review these days, you'd think there was zero else of potential interest in a film than some "sexy babe getting her kit off" -- if I want to read that kind of lazy, adolescent journalism then I'll pick up tatty publications like Zoo Weekly. I can appreciate an attractive female just as much as the next guy (marriage doesn't automatically make anyone a saint beyond reproach), but I've never once felt the need to pepper any of my reviews with trashy, grubby, locker-room language just to pander to some unseen male-oriented audience. I always write for a unisexual audience, when I write reviews, and that's the way I do things -- always have, always will.

Reviews that cater to the "oversexed teenager" mentality will never substitute for decent, honest, well written and researched material as far as I'm concerned. Though I can take it all onboard, and have a laugh at such things as immature and sexist scribblings, I can't help but feel sometimes that folk who persistently focus on such things (an actress, a particular female form, or the sordid details of a film over ALL else that the film has to offer) are maybe just a step or two removed from reality, as well as perhaps a little insecure with their own sexuality, to feel the need to carp on and on and on about such things in place of genuine film journalism. As always, this is just IMHO... :P
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Postby Bearserk » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:49 pm

About time I added some more to this thread, so here is the latest batch that I've ordered :)

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A weee bit many images :)

China Dragon (1995) - Ordered this since Brian is such a fan of the Shaolin Popey kids :P
City Maniac (1995) - Strawberry movie.
Crazy Emperor (1993) - Early 90's Cat.3 title with almost no info, just made this one a must :)
Curse (1985) - Horror movie with a great cover.
Doctor Vampire (1990) - Great title, and STSH's review sold this to me.
Empress Wu (1999) - Adult Cat.3 movie, always room for 1 more of those.
Fall in Love With Versace - Decided to get some Strawberry movies for her fans this time, so here is another of them.
Fatal Comic - Seems to be missing from the DB
The Four Queens - So does this.
Ghost Story - And this one.
Ghostly Bus (1995) - Ghost movie with Simon Yam and Valerie Chow.
The Holy Virgin vs the Evil Dead (1991) - Certainly sounds great :D
Hong Kong Happy Man (2000) - Comedy with Joe Ma and Diana Pang
Horror Net (1996) - And we always have room for another Simon Loui movie, this one also sporting Strawberry :)
Horror Hotline... Big Head Monster (2001) - A try at a decent horror movie it seems by the reviews, although the cover certainly makes it lokk more like a comedy.
Horror Trip (2002) - Sophie Ngan and Emily Kwan, nuff said :)
How to Choose a Royal Bride (1985) - Comedy with Joey Wong :)
I Will Eat You (2000) - Strawberry movie :)
Journey to the West 1 - Looks like a really cheap and sleazy series, so I just have to check it out :D
The Legend of Ghost Festival (2003) - Another cheap horror movie.
Lost Control (1997) - Seems like a nice movie.
Lucky Encounter (1992) - Comedy with Tony Leung and Kent Cheng.
The Map of Sex and Love (2001) - Drama movie with almost no info in the DB.
Midnight Fever (2000) - Strawberry :)
My Death Project (2001) - Another one :)
Narrow Escape (1994) - The third movie in the Men Behind the Sun series.
Ni Ai - Sophie Ngan :roll:
On the Edge (2006) - Sounds like a good movie
So Gor To Saves the Earth - Not quite certain what this is, but looks like fun.
Something Incredible - Blood Curse - Hopefully it is as the title say, something incredible :P Part of a series I found while searching for movies.
Something Incredible - Death Project - Another of the same series.
Something Incredible - Dreams of Death - Another one
Something Incredible - Love Not For Me - And yet another :)
Something Incredible - Presumed Guilty - And the last I was able to find, will have to search around for the 3 they didn't have.
Tales of Larceny (1973) - Adult comedy with Chung Wa and Teresa Ha
The Teenager Places - Thai movie, but the cover just screams cheese so I need to have it in my collection.
Thou Shalt Not Swear (1993) - Ghost movie with Michael Chow.
Violent Girl - Strawberry, mmm :) This one seems to be missing in the DB
Wei Xian Guan Xi - Sophie Ngan movie, need to have them all.
Women Prison (1988) - Sounds like a good movie.
X-Treme 1 - I have absolutely no idea what this is.
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:54 pm

Mike Thomason wrote: You know me, Brian, just taking the Mickey!


Hey, no probs, as they say! I kinda figured that! I enjoy your opinions on films, even when I disagree with them (what shock!), and the lack of "grubby" talk is usually noted, but I just hope you can forgive my occasional puzzlement at the commentary seemingly directed at other reviewers/fan-types is all. :lol: But you've been at this a lot longer than me, so I can imagine such thoughts may be as targetted as they are generalized. ;)

Not that I'd excuse lazy, adolescent filmmaking in some cases as well (mostly Cat. III stuff, but it does frequently go beyond that), where it's more than a little transparent that the babe(s) getting her clothes off—especially if there's no male equivalent on hand—isn't much more than irony-free pandering to the FHM/Zoo/Maxim crowd, some of whom are probably behind the camera making the film(!). And considering the mystifying circulation of those magazines and their decidedly cheeky and single-minded views of sexuality and relationships, it stands to reason that such scenes will be singled out above all else on occasion. It all comes down to the tact a reviewer applies, really.

Believing some of the folks you mention to be insecure in their sexuality or whatever isn't a call I can make as I don't have the internet and/or forum experience to know for sure. Maybe their reviews/discussions don't really hit me as hard as they should? Or perhaps I just don't stumble across them as often as other people. Or maybe I don't care one way or t'other. Boys will be boys, I suppose. And even committed relationships, as you note, won't always cure us of that. :D In the case of MOB STORY, it's fairly obvious that the film has way more to offer than hot women, but clearly Yin Shin's attire merited a passing mention, even if it was couched in commentary! :D And for that, sir, I thank you... 8)
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:08 pm

Bearserk wrote:About time I added some more to this thread, so here is the latest batch that I've ordered :)


I was beginning to wonder if you'd been crushed under the weight of all your previous purchases! :lol:

Hope you can upload credits for a lot of these! And reviews for posterity! It's so bloody easy to find reviews on all the hot new releases and classics these days, but some of these, like a couple of hundred others in this thread, just aren't gettin' the love from the powers-that-be.

Looks like my own shopping list just got a little bit longer!
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Postby ewaffle » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:43 pm

isn't much more than irony-free pandering to the FHM/Zoo/Maxim crowd


Indeed.

A cutline from the cover of one of the "lads" magazines from a few months past:

Do You Deserve a Hotter Girlfriend?

One of the best (unintentionally funny) or the worst (just plain stupid)
things I have seen in a while.

One of the reasons I chose movies to order is becoming somewhat
obsessed (an oxymoron, I realize) with different actresses. Currently
one of them is Sophie Ngan so some Cat III viewing is in my future.

Yo-Yo, Girl Cop
will hit my mailbox this week along with a few less flamboyant Oshima Yukari movies:

Angel Terminators
The Godfather's Daughter Mafia Blues
Guardian Angel
Ultracop 2000

Ultracop sounds goofy enough to be fun but it probably is just another dreadful Phillip Ko movie.

From the HKflix summary:

In the year 2000, Zorbak, the infamous outlaw from Mars, ignores the
Universal Treaty that forbids interplanetary war and goes on a killing
spree on Earth. It is up to Nunez (Oshima) and her fellow Ultracops to
stop Zorbak from conquering the Earth. Fierce Robocop-like, firepowered
action and Oshima's furious kickboxing fights will have you on the edge of
your seat!
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:41 pm

ewaffle wrote:A cutline from the cover of one of the "lads" magazines from a few months past:

Do You Deserve a Hotter Girlfriend?

One of the best (unintentionally funny) or the worst (just plain stupid)
things I have seen in a while.



Well, something's gotta balance the "10 Ways To A Better Orgasm" headlines that leap out from the covers of women's magazines! :lol:



One of the reasons I chose movies to order is becoming somewhat obsessed (an oxymoron, I realize) with different actresses. Currently one of them is Sophie Ngan so some Cat III viewing is in my future.


Ngan is probably one of the better lower-tier Cat. III actresses. But it seems like she rarely escaped the genre, even though she kept (comparatively) covered up in some of them.


Yo-Yo, Girl Cop


I've been thinking of writing about this one in my blog. Caught it as SUKEBAN DEKA: CODENAME SOMETHING-OR-OTHER via the R2 DVD a few months back (thus the fuzzy memory of the full title at the moment). Kenta Fukasuku must have a thing for that chain-link-and-concrete aesthetic he used in BATTLE ROYALE 2. Riki Takeuchi is not an actor I'm particularly fond of, but he's got some choice moments in this, and plays his role a little less sneery than usual, plus it's nice to see him without his hair greased into virtual helmet. The two leads are both pop-singer/TV star types according to what I've read. I won't pretend to understand the idol craze that goes along with alot of these J-pop starlets, especially amongst grown caucasian men :lol:, but they are cute, if not particularly strong, actresses. The yo-yo battles are nicely rendered in this, expecially in surround sound, and the heroine and villainess, not surprisingly for the genre (and the culture, one surmises), are poured into fetish-y latex & vinyl costumes that cheekily (if barely) reference the schoolgirl costumes worn in the rest of the movie (and previous SUKEBAN installments, from what I've read). Definitely a step up from BRII for the director, though he's still got a ways to go, in my opinion.

Ultracop 2000

Ultracop sounds goofy enough to be fun but it probably is just another dreadful Phillip Ko movie.


Of the four on your list, ULTRACOP 2000 is probably the most interesting, although it's probably not the best made of the bunch. The summary doesn't do it justice, really. There's a least one non-martial arts sequence, in which the heroes use a shippig crate to fend off the alien, that should put your jaw on the floor. Some reviews may spoil it, so if you haven't read about it yet, try to avoid doing so, as it's a bit of a shock at first sight!
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Postby Bearserk » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:05 pm

Brian Thibodeau wrote:I was beginning to wonder if you'd been crushed under the weight of all your previous purchases! :lol:

Hope you can upload credits for a lot of these! And reviews for posterity! It's so bloody easy to find reviews on all the hot new releases and classics these days, but some of these, like a couple of hundred others in this thread, just aren't gettin' the love from the powers-that-be.

Looks like my own shopping list just got a little bit longer!


Just a wee bit of other RL stuff that needed my attention, got some free time till school starts again now, so will have time to sit down and go through some movies before that :D
Not much else to do anyway, it's pouring down outside, and the forecasts is showing more rain this and next week, so better keep indoors, even though I would have loved to get a little time in the sun to play around with my camera, see if I can learn something new :)

And I'll make sure that the already overworked Calros will have even more credit screens to go through :D

Nice, to hear that I can add to your already extensive list :lol:

Brian Thibodeau wrote:
ewaffle wrote:One of the reasons I chose movies to order is becoming somewhat obsessed (an oxymoron, I realize) with different actresses. Currently one of them is Sophie Ngan so some Cat III viewing is in my future.



Ngan is probably one of the better lower-tier Cat. III actresses. But it seems like she rarely escaped the genre, even though she kept (comparatively) covered up in some of them.


You're not alone, I often to find myself hunting down movies from specific actresses, even going as far as acquiring movies without English subs even though I cannot understand what they are saying without them, often just to get a complete a collection as possible.
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:16 pm

even though I would have loved to get a little time in the sun to play around with my camera, see if I can learn something new


Playing with cameras in the rain can be fun too, as long as you're careful, but I think your Hong Kong movie mission is just too important to world progress! :lol:
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Postby Bearserk » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:25 pm

Brian Thibodeau wrote:
even though I would have loved to get a little time in the sun to play around with my camera, see if I can learn something new


Playing with cameras in the rain can be fun too, as long as you're careful, but I think your Hong Kong movie mission is just too important to world progress! :lol:


hehe, so people can be made aware of all the great, and not so great low budget movies you mean :lol:

Thought I should try my hand at some HDR pictures, so I would like some pictures with good contrasts, bright shinny sun, clouds on the sky and lush nature, instead of the rather boring weather we have now with rain and grey sky wherever I look.

But I will soon post some more images of actors and covers so that the masses may be educated in what is truly great movies :D
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Postby Mike Thomason » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:11 pm

The Hong Kong movie drought finally breaks...

Big Bang (South Korea) (DVD)
Kidnap (Hong Kong) (DVD)
Miracle On 1st Street (South Korea) (DVD)
Single Blog (Hong Kong) (DVD)
Whispers And Moans (Hong Kong) (DVD)

NB: There may be more yet...

Someone email when this thread hits its next page, as I now
need a widescreen monitor to read this page, since Bearserk
posted that graphics heavy reply above! :shock:
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Postby Bearserk » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:55 pm

Mike Thomason wrote:Someone email when this thread hits its next page, as I now
need a widescreen monitor to read this page, since Bearserk
posted that graphics heavy reply above! :shock:


hehe :lol: But you shouldn't need to use a WS monitor, as your browser should adjust the number of images shown on each line according to your monitor resolution :)
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Postby Mike Thomason » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:32 pm

Bearserk wrote:
Mike Thomason wrote:Someone email when this thread hits its next page, as I now
need a widescreen monitor to read this page, since Bearserk
posted that graphics heavy reply above! :shock:


hehe :lol: But you shouldn't need to use a WS monitor, as your browser should adjust the number of images shown on each line according to your monitor resolution :)


Well, believe it or not, it doesn't! :shock:
I'm running IE7 and have screen res set at 1024 x 768...
...and the page still trails off into eternity on the righthand side.
But anyway, just ignore me and carry on regardless :)
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Postby Bearserk » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:37 pm

Well I'm running Firefox, and have no such problems, so perhaps you should give it a try ;)
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Postby Mike Thomason » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:16 pm

I have run Firefox before, and can't say I was personally over-impressed with it.
(ie: it makes the site I'm developing impossible to work with)
Well, each to their own -- what works for one person, won't for another...etc etc...
But we've run way off topic enough, so back to business...:)
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Postby ewaffle » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:44 am

Dynamite Warrior Thailand, 2006, just released in the USA by Magnolia

Something for almost everybody: martial arts--more Muay Thai than kung fu, of course--romance, sorcery, bad guys with pompadours and strange mustaches, cowboys, industrialization, cattle rustling, a beautiful virgin and a dashing hero who rides a wooden rocket.

Worth watching.
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